What IS going on with Nervousness?

[stephen]

This is a companion thread to the pinned topic. Talk back here or in new threads in this forum and I'll try to stay up to date and respond to any questions anyone has.

[queenfisher]

very nice. loving the changes.

where'd the 'tips & tricks' forum go? maybe 'older stuff' could be 'misc' or something else, since there's already 'older stuff' in there?

thrilled to see good things happening. thanks.

;-)

/shafina

[stephen]

I deleted any forum that had less than 5 threads, and moved the threads to the Older Stuff forum. The tips and tricks forum was likely one of those. I could recreate it if everyone thinks it's a good idea.

[jaydestarr]

:: blinks :: Wow... there are a lot of members active right now. Weird.

I like the new organization, but I do think that the Tips & Tricks may be best suited in its own category. Or people could just search for what they're looking for. Either way it's good.

I'm so decisive. :: sigh ::

[Melbernai]

Hi Stephen,

I'm excited to see that you are working on Nervousness. I know how much you do to update diary-x and keep it running as efficiently as possible, so seeing that you are a part of nervousness now is a big relief.

I am wondering how much of a part you'll be? I know you have your hands full with d-x and your real job and all that other stuff, so I'm wondering how much of a role you'll be taking on?

Are Guy and Erik still playing an active part?

Glad to see some stuff being done around here.

~Melissa

[JustSu]

stephen! with no implication of weird stuff intended, i could kiss your feet! you're doing it - you're working on things!!!!! hooooooooowwweeeeeeeee!!!! thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!! i make little pressies of my famous jack daniels fudge to folks who brighten the lives of lots of others in my area, and now that the weather is turning fall-ish in AL, it's getting to be time that i could mail some out. if you'd like some, send me your address!

::happy dancing::

[imawkward]

Hey Stephen,
I was thinking, to shorten down the opening lmao page, the finished lmao feature could help, by placing all finished lmaos onto a completely different page. Does this make any sense?

[stephen]

Okay, let's see. imawkward, LMAOs marked as complete will be removed from the opening LMAO page, yes. I'm also going to shorten it from 100 to 25 -- 100 seems a bit excessive.

In my mind there are three states for a LMAO: open for signups, in progress, and fully complete. Once the new system is in place only LMAOs that are open for signups will appear in the opening LMAO page, and only LMAOS that aren't complete will appear (by default) in your profile.

JustSu, we should do an exchange. http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif I don't know what I can offer you though.

Melbernai, fortunately diary-x is mostly self-sustaining at this point. There are some features I'd like to add, and there are some bugs that I need to fix, but there's nothing pressing right now. Erik and Guy have both agreed to take a back seat on Nness right now; I'm running the show for the time being. It's unclear whether I'm the permanent admin or just temporary; we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

I'll go ahead and resurrect the Tips & Tricks forum.

[JustSu]

stephen, you already have "sent" me something - you're bringing this site back to life! since it's a large part of what keeps me from going totally bonkers, that's way way way more than a batch of JD fudge!

1.

oops - i'm so used to adding three facts to everything i post now that i started to do it here! man, am i hooked bad on that thread!

hey, stephen, thanks for setting the boards to show more threads on one page! cutting that thread from 38 to 19 pages helped, though it freaked me out for a few! thought i'd had a stroke and had hallucinated nearly ten pages! ;-)

[WitchDust]

I noticed the difference in the forums this evening & I like it! I appreciate all the effort you're putting into the site. The communication aspect is great & I like that it's here in the fourms where I spend way too much time anyway. Thanks Stephen!

[mejaka]

Stephen, it may already be somewhat apparent that I'm easy to please and slow to blame...so I might not have a lot of suggestions or be too upset if they aren't implemented. But I do appreciate your work and sincerely admire you for doing so much to stay in touch with the people of Nness, even back when it must have felt like walking into a pack of angry wolves. I hope having these forums set up for information dissemination and discussion makes it easier. I hope it helps a little also to know there are some people who consider the entire site a very generous gift.

mejaka

[Penster]

I'm glad to see some little changes now Stephen, and am happy that you've taken an interest in this wonderful community! http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[jaydestarr]

Stephen, thank you SO much for getting these message boards (and the rest of the site) running again. Really. Of course, I had a brain fart and couldn't figure out what the heck happened for a second. I mean, 18 pages of the 3 facts post gone?? I'm okay now, though. http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

I'll admit I was apprehensive about the site coming under a new administrator, and I was hesitant to put my trust back in the site, but now I'm pretty confident that everything is in very good (and capable http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif) hands.

Really, thanks for the work you're putting into this.

[jaydestarr]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">In my mind there are three states for a LMAO: open for signups, in progress, and fully complete.[/b][/quote]

Sorry to bug you (again), but may I suggest something (that can easily be shot down http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif)? Is there any way to add a fourth state: in transit? I suppose it's sort of a substate of in progress. I know this has been suggested somewhere else in the forums, and it doesn't directly relate to what you were talking about, but I figured I'd mention it anyway.

Anyway, I just wanted to get that out in the open just in case. http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[GuineaBaby]

Wow! I almost had a heartattack when I saw the pages went down too! lol I thought someone had started a new thread on me! Glad to know it didn't! lol

It's great to see the one thread we all use at the top. Now if only I can stop myself from scrolling down automatically....hehe

And I, too, must add a BIG thank you for working on nervousness!

[kittie_naughty]

Ditto: it's so nice to have a real live contact person who communicates with us- truly! And like the others, I look forward to the changes and improvements you're working on. Thank you for your efforts http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Helquin]

I'll add my 2 cents as well: Stephen, it's great to have you here! The changes in the Forums are great and I'm looking forward to seeing the improvements to the rest of Nervousness. Thanks for your hard work.

[GuineaBaby]

I was just curious...is there a way to add the usernames to the exchanges when it is agreed upon? Sometimes I get confused because, such as in exchanging postcards, I don't know who I've sent to and who I haven't when it comes to looking up the usernames...I don't know if anyone else feels it's necessary or if it's just me...but I think it would help keep some of us more organized

[Heartwindow]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">only LMAOS that aren't complete will appear (by default) in your profile.[/b][/quote]
I suppose there are two levels of "completeness" - one to do with the completion of a particular Nervousness member's part, and one to do with completion of a project as a whole.

1: I've finished my part of this object and passed it on AND the next person/originator has received it.

2: This object is finished.  All participating members have done their part, and the LMAO owner has sent out their part (say, re-distributed ATCs or whatever)

In between those is the "I've done my part, I'm waiting on something" state.

I'm mentioning this (without a solution in mind http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif ) because my objects page has a whole lot of the first kind of completeness, without many of those being officially "complete" as an object, so stripping out the "Complete" ones wouldn't decrease the length of my page much.

I'm sure this has been mentioned before.

____

Oh, just one more thing - I gather the ranking of objects is based on the order you signed up for them.  Maybe the order could be based on which are recently updated - so the "active" objects are always at the top, and "inactive" objects drift to the bottom of the stack.  (or there could be a sort option on your page for the LMAOS - "completeness", last updated, place in list (ie, if you are next in line for a travelling object, that appears at the top of your list)

I'll stop ranting now  http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

[stephen]

Batch reply mode: engaged!

Heartwindow: on your personal page you'll see (by default) only the LMAOs that you still need to do something with.  In addition, they'll be sorted by how many steps they have to go through to get to you, so the ones that you currently have possession of will be at the very top, the ones that are on their way to you will be below them, the ones that are at the person before you will be below that, etc.  Once you pack it up and send it off and click "I've sent this to the next person in line", they'll be removed from that page.  However, the LMAOs you've started will not disappear by default until they are officially closed.

GuineaBaby: I have no idea why that's names aren't already displayed next to exchanges.  I can certainly do that.

jadestar: Once a LMAO is marked as being "in progress", it can have one of two sub-states: "in transit to #", or "currently with #" (where # is a number of a person in line).  The head will show up between the two people involved.  Is that satisfactory?

Everyone else, thanks for the warm fuzzies http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[ezerd]

hi, stephen! i, too, must thank you for all your hard work on this site.

about the lmao page - will we have a personal history page, so that we may have a quick reference back to an object - in case of any mix up or to just check up on the overall status of it?

i don't know how others feel about it, but would it be possible to have a 'friends' section on our own page for our personal viewing - a way to quickly jump to that person's page, rather than searching for it or going through our exchanges & lmaos.

i love the idea of usernames appearing on exchange agreement emails and such! what a help that would be!

thanks for listening~

[jaydestarr]

Sounds perfect, Stephen. http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Thanks much!

[Heartwindow]

That sounds perfect Stephen! Thank you so much!

[Melbernai]

Hmm, you know what would be an nice lil easy fix probably?

If you upload an image to a LMAO, there are two ways it can be done, depending on if you are the owner of the LMAO or a sign up.

If you own it, you have to post the image using a web URL link.

If you are a sign-up, you have to post the image by having it stored to your hard drive.

Now, this is a pain for people who don't have a web account that houses images, and haven't yet learned about places that house them for free, and a pain for people (like me) who have sucky AOL and all of the images that you look at online get saved as .art instead of .jpg if you are using an AOL browser instead of opening a seperate IE or netscape browser, being that AOL sucks ass and likes to make life living #### for anyone who uses it.

So anyway, wouldn't it make more sense if you could use either of the two options all the time? Get to post an image from a URL or from your harddrive, instead of only one or the other.

Maybe I'm just a dimwit and you can already do this, but if you can, I haven't figured it out yet, which would just go along with the dimwittedness.

~Meli

[Death_Or_Aldona]

Hi stephen! Welcome to Nervousness. Thank you working so hard to make things better!

*I agree with Ezerd. I think It would be lovely to have a friends list on my page. It would make things much easier http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
*Also, I was wondering if anyone else finds it irritating that you can't go from the forums page straight to your own page. I always hafta backtrack to get back to my page.

[queenfisher]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Death_Or_Aldona @ Oct. 19 2002,01:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">you can't go from the forums page straight to your own page. I always hafta backtrack to get back to my page.[/b][/quote]
hehe bugs me too. we are missing a link on the page header!

;-)

/shafina

[stephen]

Actually, there's a good reason for this -- the 'your page' link is just a link to the profile page for your username. Since the forums aren't tied directly to Nness, they don't know what your Nness username is.

However, it's brain-dead simple to write a script which sniffs your Nness username (if you have one) and redirects you to the appropriate page. I'll do that this evening.

[Death_Or_Aldona]

Wow! Stephen...have I told you lately that you kick ass?

[stephen]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Death_Or_Aldona @ Oct. 18 2002,18:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Wow! Stephen...have I told you lately that you kick ass?[/b][/quote]
No, but thanks http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

I added the link. It seems a bit wider than the other links, but maybe it's just me.

[queenfisher]

wow thanks, that was quick.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Since the forums aren't tied directly to Nness, they don't know what your Nness username is.[/b][/quote]

what a fun thing to discover about the site :-D

i might not have noticed about the spacing - well not right away anyway - if you had not mentioned it. odd though, and such things do bother me, as just happened with this page i made and it bugged me to no end until i figured it out - just anal, as someone told me, hehe.

;-)

/shafina



Last edited by queenfisher at Oct. 19 2002,04:01

[amylyn]

Before the fuss of losing nervousness, I took it completely for granted. I am so glad it is still available, and love all the ideas for making it run smoother. Thanks so much for all your work.

[gryhare]

OH, wow. Stephen, thank you. That was really fast and really nice.

k.

[ezerd]

stephen -

wow, dude, you totally rock! you're communicative, quick, efficient! dang! i can't get over it! thank you!

http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Mermaid]

At some future point, would it be possible to have a calendar page where those who want their birthdays mentioned could add them, and a link to their nervousness pages?

[JustSu]

dagnabit, you are one slick dude, stephen! i've been wanting a link back to my page for like ever and zip, as soon as it's mentioned, you diddle it out and put it up! bravo! bravissimo!! since i'm a mac user, i dropped the URL for my page onto the address bar long ago (creates a shortcut), but this is *so* much better, since I don't always access the site from my home computer. and i really really like the re-odering of the forum topics!!!

the fudge will be as strong as i can make it and have it still set up!

[eenie]

oh, awesome! thanks stephen. you're a Godsend.http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[thunderstorm_19]

thanks for letting us be able to go back to our own pages directly from the forums, even though the forums aren't directly connected with nervousness....
the inability to do that has been pissing me off for ages!

[thunderstorm_19]

well, perhaps pissing me off is a bit strong...

fmeh... i'm tired. 12:33 am... and i still have to pack to go home before i can go to bed... not to mention make the bed (i did laundry)

[Penster]

As everyone previous has said, thanks for being so attentive to our Nervousness Needs!!  I'm glad to see the "Your Page" link too, and I am looking forward to when the forums will be fully integrated into Nervousness http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[jaydestarr]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Now, this is a pain for people who don't have a web account that houses images, and haven't yet learned about places that house them for free[/b][/quote]
villiage photos (http://www.villagephotos.com) hosts images for free. You get 5mb of bandwidth/day. Even by hosting a ton of images for my journal and a few for here and the background image for JustSu's journal, I never get above about 15% of that. There's just no reason to go out for the paid account there.

Stephen, you really do kick ass. Seriously. A lot of ass. You also made me feel just a little smart - I had a feeling that the inablity to get to the profile page from the forums was because of the different registrations, but I figured I was crazy. http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif :: sigh :: I really, really need to buckle down and learn everything I want to learn. All of this is so effing amazing to me. I want to be able to do it, too!

Oh, and there is just a bit more room between your page and debates (in IE 5.5). Not that it's a big deal or anything. Oh, and I'm not sure if this even matters since not many people seem to even know what it is, but the menu is really weird looking in Opera. It's probably just a matter of browser pickiness or something. No big deal, though. I mean, the links are there and that's the important thing. http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif I'm not picky about it, I just figured I'd mention it since the subject came up.

[kittie_naughty]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Guest @ Oct. 18 2002,16:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i don't know how others feel about it, but would it be possible to have a 'friends' section on our own page for our personal viewing - a way to quickly jump to that person's page, rather than searching for it or going through our exchanges & lmaos.[/b][/quote]
oh, that's a fab idea! i would love to have a little list like that. I also sometimes find people with whom I'd like to exchange with in the future, and I always forget their names. I could then bookmark such interesting people in the little buddy list.

[mejaka]

Hey, cool! I can skip from here right to my personal page, instead of going to People and then doing it!

:^ )

[naughtymonkey]

I am loving all this warm fuzziness going on. These changes are kicking ass. Now to my fun, little-kid phase, can we call you STEVIE?!? http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[GuineaBaby]

Wow! That was fast! It's great to be able to go directly to my page. I used to have two windows for that purpose. Thanks!

[JustSu]

naughtymonkey, this is a lot nicer than a couple of weeks ago when we were all covered in tension, gloom, and doom. YAY, STEPHEN!!!

let's hear it for our fearless leader! hip, hip, hooray!! hip, hip, hooray!! hip, hip, hooorrrrraaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy!!!! for he's a jolly good ...{what? been watching too much old british tv, you say? quite so, old thing. shushing now.}

[JustSu]

um, one thought about the friends thing - how about if it's only visible to us (the owner, on our own page) - that would avoid the "i put you on my friends' list, why didn't you put me on yours?" stuff that goes on at lj.

[Dara]

one idea that I was wondering if you could do would be to remove people from your lmao's that you don't want on there. for example, I have one that 7 out of 10 people have participated in. I would love to delete the other 3 and allow in 3 more that really want to do what they have to do! you know what I mean? thanks!

[GuineaBaby]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Guest @ Oct. 19 2002,16:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">one idea that I was wondering if you could do would be to remove people from your lmao's that you don't want on there. for example, I have one that 7 out of 10 people have participated in. I would love to delete the other 3 and allow in 3 more that really want to do what they have to do! you know what I mean? thanks![/b][/quote]
That doesn't seem like a fair idea. Someone could remove someone from their LMAO just because they don't like them or didn't like their entry, you know?

[GuineaBaby]

just more thinking...is it possible to not accept offers if one is blank? I know when I first joined, I accidently initiated an exchange with Melbernai before i typed in what I wanted to offer. and I have also accidently asked blank questions. That's another problem of mine. I accidently press buttons I'm not supposed to hehe

[kperrty]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Guest @ Oct. 19 2002,19:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">one idea that I was wondering if you could do would be to remove people from your lmao's that you don't want on there.[/b][/quote]
I would like this for ppl that drop below the required feedback...or, if they drop below then the system can automatically drop them off the LMAO?
~kperrty http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[kyrasantae]

re. Stephen's latest post on his pinned thread:

If you were to implement the system to only allow the user to put it 'in transit' to the next person in line, what would happen to those people whom we question and get no response and have to skip?

I see that you've got a good system being developed for the new Nervousness, but implementing it might take a while, considering we have to weed out non-responsive members too.

Also, some people start travelling LMAOs going even before the full number of people allowed to sign up have signed up. If sign-up is closed once an LMAO is set to 'in progress' status, then this wouldn't work anymore. I personally don't want to have to wait until all the slots are full before starting, or, if an object has started moving but you want to open up slots for more people to add on at the end.

Sorry if I sound harsh. It's just me.

[mejaka]

I put this in the Bad Eggs topic but it should be here...

<snip>
I like being "justified and ancient." Or "Factory-installed..." <G>

I don't guess I have to add my anti-livejournal-model comment.

I already have limits for myself as to how many LMAOs I can sign up for. I don't mind the idea of having "points" to "spend" on LMAOs. I allow myself a certain number of collection ones outstanding, and a certain number of traveling ones I'm waiting for. The figures are very low because I'm the busy mother of four, president of a children's organization, head of a Cub Scout pack, etc etc. and I have NO STUDIO. <sob>

Unlike everyone else, I don't care one way or the other about the feedback system, because I only use it as one minor tool for evaluating someone's reliability.

Things I wish most often I could do:

Jump straight to my page from the forum--Oh, wait, yeah, I CAN! :^ )

Eliminate from my personal page LMAOs that are truly complete (not just my part--but the object is back home, the trades all completed, the swap done with, or whatever).

Sort the LMAOs I'm involved with into these categories: LMAOs I created and am managing; collection or swap LMAOs for which I need to do my part; traveling LMAOs I'm waiting for (with "currently with #X" auto-update and "my position in line" indicator); traveling LMAOs that have been through my hands but are still traveling; and the option to remove completed LMAOs as above.

Set the system to notify me not only when someone asks me a question, but when someone answers a question I asked.

In transit indicator (to go with the I'm Here head).

The ability to block from or delete from my own LMAOs someone with whom I've had bad experiences. I'd really rather do this than have the system do it. It's a rare thing when everyone agrees on who is truly unreliable. And if we could block from our own LMAOs someone who had been a problem, those who were chronic problems would find themselves unable to play as more and more people came to distrust them. It wouldn't save all the LMAOs but I think if it was clearly understood that failure to play well with others and failure to communicate about minor setbacks would result in their being added to more and more block-user lists, I think we might weed out some people who join with the deliberate intention of stealing or who don't take the game seriously enough.

mejaka

[Dara]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (GuineaBaby @ Oct. 19 2002,16:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> That doesn't seem like a fair idea. Someone could remove someone from their LMAO just because they don't like them or didn't like their entry, you know?[/b][/quote][/b][/quote]
I would hope that wouldn't happen. but if the owner could delete people that don't respond when asked if they're ready for the object, that would help the other problem mentioned about the in transit button! I still think it's a good idea. we'd have to trust people to use it appropriately.

[EssEssESs]

To begin, thanks for all you are doing for us, stephen! We all apprieciate all the time and effort you are putting into the site! http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

I was just wondering, I know this is getting somewhat small and picky, but does anyone else feel that having an extra slot or two in our personal information (Where your address is) for IM accounts that you may have to be displayed. I may be just strange but sometimes i think i'd rather talk to someone instead of posting questions and staring at them for a while... http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif Some extra fields on the information setup say for AIM, ICQ, MSN, and Yahoo messenger that would be strictly optional would sound good to me, anyone else?

And Stephen, keep up the good work! http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif As a fellow Steve (Who's name is sometimes mispelled as Stephen) I salute you! *Salute*

[queenfisher]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If you were to implement the system to only allow the user to put it 'in transit' to the next person in line, what would happen to those people whom we question and get no response and have to skip?[/b][/quote]

maybe when someone is skipped they could be marked somehow, and in this instance a participant can also see the full address and email of the sign-up after the skipped person? if that made sense...

and then the question of who should have the ability to mark a participant as being skipped? in my opinion the person should be the object creator, as sometimes a person can be skipped by accident (annoyingly happened to me). there should be communication between the object creator and players anyway, and the object creator should have the final word on whether a person should be skipped or not.

just taking the idea further...

;-)

/shafina



Last edited by queenfisher at Oct. 20 2002,04:17

[kperrty]

was wondering about sorting LMAOs on our personal pages? You know how currently the page is split between created and signed up for? How about more sections? Such as....created....waiting....working....completed(my part)....and completed(totally)? And on the add a comment, update location there can be a way to move the LMAO to another section?
Just a thought
~kperrty

[Death_Or_Aldona]

Mejaka: Set the system to notify me not only when someone asks me a question, but when someone answers a question I asked.

Totally agree...that would be wonderful. I spend a good bit of my time on Nness just checking to see if any of my Q's were answered.

[GuineaBaby]

deleting questions are a whole nother issue.
I don't like it that people can delete questions I ask and it disappears from my page and I can't delete the questions I ask. I want to be able to delete questions from my page after I get the answer I want so I can keep track of the ones I still need an answer from. I want to be able to delete a question off my page, but let the other person have it on their page if they want to. What I am saying is I want to delete questions I ask, not what was asked to me.

[JustSu]

one of the brightest days of my nervous life was when i discovered the page that shows all the questions a user has asked. finally, a way to avoid having to go all around the world to see answers to my questions, and trying to remember who i had asked something and who i hadn't! i slapped a bookmark on that puppy pronto and boy, do i use it! stephen, a link at the top, over the lacy stuff, to the questions asked page by the user might be a really good idea. that way, people don't have to wait to stumble across it like i did and then remember to bookmark it!

[JustSu]

and stephen, in case you haven't figured it out yet (but i'll bet you have), the debates pages are a waste of time/space. no one much uses them. they could go bye-bye and most people wouldn't even notice.

[GuineaBaby]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (JustSu @ Oct. 20 2002,03:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">and stephen, in case you haven't figured it out yet (but i'll bet you have), the debates pages are a waste of time/space.  no one much uses them.  they could go bye-bye and most people wouldn't even notice.[/b][/quote]
i have to agree with this one. i went there once and added my mind to a few of them, but that was it. i never checked what other people said or if anyone agreed with me.

[Death_Or_Aldona]

I've been to the debates page a grand total of 2 times. If it was gone I'd be all like "hey...that was a good idea! Who uses that page anyway?"
Ummm...Just so ya know http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Someone]

Kyrasantae, I share your concern about the 'in progress' setting. I find that I get impatient if I'm at the top of the list and the LMAO owner is waiting for 25 people to sign up, and I think, considering the time it takes to send things, that it's better to be able to send something out and have people sign up later.

Mejaka, I agree that it would be nice to be able to make my own decisions about who to block instead of having the feedback system do it for me. That would eliminate problems with people who have tons of positive feedback points and then stop playing nice and still have enough feedback to participate in everything for a long time, and it would also give me the chance to take a risk on newbies without opening an object to bad eggs.

Regarding the friends list, it would be nice, especially if it were available only to me.

Regarding the debates page, it was pretty much dead by the time I got here in March. I don't think anybody would miss it.

[EssEssESs]

Another nervousness member mentioned to me that perhaps we could change the numbers of allowerd sign-ups in the create object pages to allow for any number up to 15 or 20 before breaking into fives. This would allow those many who seem to have only enough space for 12 people, but have to settle for 15 with a warning that there are only 12 spots... this can be an inconvenience...

[stephen]

The admin thread has been updated with news regarding LMAO handling, incorporating feedback from this thread.

Debates is on the chopping block, speak now or forever hold its pieces.

I think it's silly to restrict the number of people that can sign up for a LMAO to round numbers at all. There's no limitation in the DB that says that only specific numbers of users can sign up. I think it should be 20 by default, and can otherwise be any number from 1 to 99, although 1 would be kind of silly.

Another random idea, possibly to replace Debates: a postcard pool. Postcards seem like a pretty easy thing for everyone to get their hands on, and postage is fairly cheap. Members can sign up for the postcard pool, and then once a week (or whatever) they'd get a list of 5 people to send postcards to, presumably a different five people every time. If it works, then everyone in the pool will get five postcards from Nervousness users on a weekly basis.

What say ye?

[Someone]

EssEssEss, thank you for mentioning that problem. I had forgotten about it, but I see it all the time.

The new method of LMAO handling sounds good. Would it be possible to block people from a travelling LMAO and still allow them to participate in a collection?

For the postcard pool, would it be okay to sign up for just one week at a time?

[EssEssESs]

Very impressive, Stephen! http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

I like the breakup there, and I think that having the traveling and collection objects separating like that will help to keep things straight.

I'd say dropping out from the object in (at least) the have or in transit stages should be forbidden, although it should be freely allowed in the waiting stage, just in case someone (*accidently*) signs up for something they didn't mean to (*personal experience*). they will have some way to get out of it without the need of admin help. I'm sure you have better things to do than run around taking people out of objects and such.

With the 'finished object' section there should be no reasons for someone to drop out in the 'done' stage to save page space either.

The postcard pool sounds good to me... I doubt half the people on the site would even notice if that debates section mysteriously... dissappeared. http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Ok... I think that covers my two cents... *returns to his dark corner of Nervousness*

[stephen]

I like the postcard pool idea because it's something I can implement without worrying about whether or not I'm breaking functionality on the site. Replacing the LMAO pages is going to be like pulling out the tablecloth and replacing it with another one without spilling any of the liquid in the glasses. Which are full to the brim. Oh, and there's a strong breeze. http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

The postcard pool could be handled a bunch of different ways. It could run every week on, say, Wednesday, and people could sign up for it until the Tuesday before it. You could say "Always put me into the pool" or "I just want to be in the pool this week". Or you could manually sign up for however many weeks you wanted to be in it.

[BreezyK]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (JustSu @ Oct. 20 2002,03:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">one of the brightest days of my nervous life was when i discovered the page that shows all the questions a user has asked.[/b][/quote]
Agreed. I stumbled upon this page quite by accident, without even knowing of its exsistance. Then, when I went back to my home computer to find it again, it took me.... well, I won't admit just how long it took me.... but it was very hard to find. I bookmarked it right away once I found it, but it'd be nice for the newbies if there was a more direct route to your own Q's.

And I also agree with GuineaBaby about Question deletion being a problem. I understand that people may want to clean up their questions page, but I wish the question I ask can't be deleted on my ownpage. Maybe allow questions/anwsers to be deleted by either user (asker or askee http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif ), but it would only be deleted from the page of the person who deletes. So on my page, under Q or A, it would have my question or response, and where their question or answer was, it would say "Question/Answer deleted by user."

As far as being able to delete people from LMAOs you create, I think it would be fine. As far as I've experienced, the only time a person here wouldn't "like" someone else enough to remove them, it's because that person's been flakey. Also, it would help when people do an "Australia only" or some such LMAO, and others go ahead and sign up anyway. Just gives the LMAO owner more control, which I think would make the chances of the LMAO succeeding more likely.

My ten cents.

[stephen]

Do you think people would be less likely to remove questions if their questions page only showed the 10 most recent questions, or something like that? I think the "your account" page is kind of ridiculously long if you've been around for any great length of time, there's no need for it to be that long.

[BreezyK]

stephen,
That would help for people who are just trying to keep organized, but some of the, err... less respectable... folk here remove questions that reflect negatively upon themselves just so other people don't see all the question from upset people on their page. If they did this, at least you'd still have a record that you asked them a question, and know that they deleted it.

btw, thanks for getting so involved... it's really quite lovely.

[EssEssESs]

That would definately cut down on those who delete questions for 'clean-up' reasons, but there are a select few who delete questions to weasel out of answering them... this, obviously, will not help that. They feel that if the questions are not there, somebody might not notice that they don't participate well and can still get a hold of stuff from the site. I'd say drop down the number of questions shown and oust the delete question option. (if you could make it so blank questions or answers don't process the delete should be worthless except for clean or shady purposes)

[stephen]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">One of the brightest days of my nervous life was when i discovered the page that shows all the questions a user has asked.[/b][/quote]
A bunch of people mentioned this, so I've updated the people pages so that there's a link to the questions the user has been asked, as well as to the questions asked by the user.

Hopefully that will make it easier to get around, if only slightly.

Oh yeah, and I keep forgetting. Nuts are good, I'm not allergic.



Last edited by stephen at Oct. 20 2002,21:29

[GuineaBaby]

I don't mind how many questions of mine I can see, just as long as I can get to them. I depend heavily on those questions. Sometimes to see a question I have asked, I have to try to remember the username of the other person because I can no longer see the questions. Why does it give you the option of seeing the last 200 questions you've asked when it will only show 100?

[mejaka]

I had a thought. Is there a way we could set the system so that if you did something exceptionally nice for someone it immediately produced a half-pound of tiger-butter fudge? Maybe it could just come clacking out of your printer or eject from your disk drive.

[Mermaid]

Nervousness timeline (http://nervousness.org/lmao/index.cgi?id=4185)

I am just posting this in case this can help with dating signups past.

[Penster]

Stephen, I would just like to thank you for taking over the reins of nervousness and making the much needed improvements in the site.  As you've already learned, you will never run out of ideas from this community http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif.

Ditching the "Debates" page is a great idea!  Replacing it with something like a postcard pool sounds like it will be a bit more interesting and active.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">tiger-butter fudge[/b][/quote]

I think I may want to get to know this "tiger-butter fudge" better mejaka.... http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[queenfisher]

re: 'What's going on with Nervousness?' thread, update #5 sounds really good. are those easy - you can do them with your eyes closed things? just wondering... ;-)

so will the default member page have a short list of objects, exchages and q&a, then each has their own full list? well only objects does not have its own page for now anyway.

i like the postcard pool idea.

and thanks for so quickly adding the 2 new q&a links.

;-)

/shafina

[someofmyorange]

I agree with GuineaBaby, Death_Or_Aldona, Someone,  about the debates page. Ditch it.

"I think it's silly to restrict the number of people that can sign up for a LMAO to round numbers at all.  There's no limitation in the DB that says that only specific numbers of users can sign up.  I think it should be 20 by default, and can otherwise be any number from 1 to 99, although 1 would be kind of silly."

I agree with this. And the postcard pool sounds fun.

"With the 'finished object' section there should be no reasons for someone to drop out in the 'done' stage to save page space either."

Definetly not.

"Why does it give you the option of seeing the last 200 questions you've asked when it will only show 100?"

Yeah..!

And thank you very much for the 2 new question and answer links!

I'm so happy about all of this! http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[someofmyorange]

OOO I just thought of something!! Look at me look at me! I have something to say! (I feel small in the message boards)
Ahem *clears throat* I would like to be able to see where my feedback has gone. It tells how many people I've left it for, but not who they are. It's up to me to remember. I don't know why I need to see the people, my obsessive compulsive side says I should.

[jaydestarr]

That sounds like a good idea, orange. http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

OK, class is starting... gotta go... http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

[GuineaBaby]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (someofmyorange @ Oct. 20 2002,15:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">OOO I just thought of something!! Look at me look at me! I have something to say! (I feel small in the message boards)
Ahem *clears throat* I would like to be able to see where my feedback has gone. It tells how many people I've left it for, but not who they are. It's up to me to remember. I don't know why I need to see the people, my obsessive compulsive side says I should.[/b][/quote]
I agree! I have thought about wanting to see who I've left for. That way I can see if I have had good dealings with them or not and if I want to trade with them again.

[Penster]

[QUOTE]I would like to be able to see where my feedback has gone. It tells how many people I've left it for, but not who they are. [QUOTE]

Great idea! http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Mermaid]

Is there a way to receive email 'you have new feedback' as there is for questions?

PS I think these are already being addressed:
-being able to read feedback you have left for others

- a separate 'online only' category for objects


-'more about' each person - especially how long they have been at nervousness; and a few interests they have.

-an 'in transit' head icon



-It's a hard balance to strike, but maybe 45 or 60 days 'reminder email' if people haven't logged into nervousness?


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[someofmyorange]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Mermaid @ Oct. 21 2002,19:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">PS I think these are already being addressed:
-being able to read feedback you have left for others



Nervous newbie mentors and helpers-general:

Eenie
Flea ?
Fraumelina
Jadestar webring
JustSu - html
Kernyen ?
Mermaid – around the site; chats; html; Australia; simultaneous chocolate-eating !
Penster
Strawdog?
Subatomic zoo
vijaycee[/b][/quote]
Uhm. Where do you see your list of people you've left feedback for? I know we can see how much we've left, but not to whom it's been left.

Also, uhh I have been here as long, if not longer, than some of these people. Not attacking you... but is this your choice to decide? Just a question, love you Mermaid.

[eenie]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (someofmyorange @ Oct. 22 2002,04:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Also, uhh I have been here as long, if not longer, than some of these people. Not attacking you... but is this your choice to decide? Just a question, love you Mermaid.[/b][/quote]
awhile back, mermaid asked for volunteers.. the people listed are the people who volunteered.: )

[kittie_naughty]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (someofmyorange @ Oct. 21 2002,21:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I would like to be able to see where my feedback has gone. It tells how many people I've left it for, but not who they are.[/b][/quote]
I've also wanted this at some point as well. It is available on eBay and I use it there a lot. I don't know why. Probably one part obsessiveness and one part boredom. Or I like getting myself upset about <insertNastyword here> people who can't be bothered to acknowledge one's efforts with a feedback comment... in this case, having a list would come in handy. It would make it easier for me to keep track and get pissed off http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[measi]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (stephen @ Oct. 21 2002,00:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">One of the brightest days of my nervous life was when i discovered the page that shows all the questions a user has asked.[/b][/quote]
A bunch of people mentioned this, so I've updated the people pages so that there's a link to the questions the user has been asked, as well as to the questions asked by the user.

Hopefully that will make it easier to get around, if only slightly.

Oh yeah, and I keep forgetting.  Nuts are good, I'm not allergic.[/b][/quote]
This was one of the most helpful things I've noticed so far. Thank you!

I had a saved link on my favorites list so that I could check all of the questions I'd asked. It's much easier to just pop off the page with the link you have now.

~ Mel.

[stephen]

Front page updated (http://www.nervousness.org/), no more notes about how Nervousness is doomed. Debates link is gone from that page, watch for it to slip away from everywhere else soon. http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

I'm going to try to hobble together an administration area, or some sort of account management area, so you can easily see what questions, exchanges, LMAOs, etc, you have outstanding. I don't know when that will be ready. If anything I'll slap together a temporary page where you can see what feedback you've left for other people.

[cieart]

I'm in love with Stephen... http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif ...isn't it amazing how we can be http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif with him at the beginning of the month and then http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif three weeks later.

[cieart]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (someofmyorange @ Oct. 22 2002,11:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">PS I think these are already being addressed:
-being able to read feedback you have left for others



Nervous newbie mentors and helpers-general:

Eenie
Flea ?
Fraumelina
Jadestar webring
JustSu - html
Kernyen ?
Mermaid – around the site; chats; html; Australia; simultaneous chocolate-eating !
Penster
Strawdog?
Subatomic zoo
vijaycee[/b][/quote]
Uhm. Where do you see your list of people you've left feedback for? I know we can see how much we've left, but not to whom it's been left.

Also, uhh I have been here as long, if not longer, than some of these people. Not attacking you... but is this your choice to decide? Just a question, love you Mermaid.[/b][/quote]
Someofmyorange, I think you read Mermaids post wrong, she was just higlighting a few points that she thought that might have been mentioned already and that included [/QUOTE]-being able to read feedback you have left for others[QUOTE]

Dulcie

[EssEssESs]

Woo Stephen!

I love to see that all the gloom and doom has lifted! :o) Plus the home page loads much faster than my feeble dial-up connection should allow... Voodoo magic i tell you! http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Anyhow, I think a page listing users who could help/mentor new users would be a good idea, if someone could put together a list of users with their email addresses, perhaps we could have them listed somewhere in a newbie help section on the site. Having straight lines to people who can answer questions would help new users from having to struggle into the Nervous ways.

Ps- I would gladly volunteer as a Newbie helper/mentor or such. Besides being here a while and being Male, I can't think of much else I specialize in... but general help is as good as any I would say! http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Mermaid]

What I posted earlier was an amalgam of discussions that had happened here and on the yahoogroup during the months when there was great uncertainty about who was doing what with the site.

It was a direct cut and paste from files that were in the yahoogroup until everybody knew what was going on.

As always, I am only trybng to help.http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

Thanks for the calendar on the main forums page, Stephen and happy birthday heartwindow.

At a future time everything will be clear and makeshift files won't be necessary http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[someofmyorange]

sorry mermaid, i didn't understand.

[Mermaid]

Hey the main thing is to keep communicating.

[cieart]

GuineaBaby and I was discussing in another thread how great it would be if there could be another space allocated on the top of our page about our current status, for eg: "off-line 28/10 - 4/11". Also if that message could appear on the lmaos we have signed up for.

Dulcie

[pixelady]

Stephen-

I didn't see anyone else suggest this, if it's redundant, forgive me.

This is about exchanges

If I find someone who is offering something I want, I have to click and read to find out what they want, which is usually not something I have. It would be so much easier if you could say "hey, I have a Widget that I'd like to get rid of. Let's see who wants a Widget." Then I could search and see both who wants a Widget and what they are offering for one.

So basically I'd like to be able to search both wants and haves and see both displayed after searching.

Anyone else think this would be a good feature?

[lobster-girl]

i was wunnerin if there is or if there could be a way to search exchanges by number? not id# but rather a button where i could search exchanges 300-400? does that make sense? what i end up doing now is scrolling down to the bottom of the exhcanges page and then clicking to the next link and then scrolling down, etc...there's like a zillion exchanges but it's taking me forever to get to the ones i haven't seen yet and gosh, i don't know if i'm making any sense! yeeps! http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[Wombat]

Hi Stephen, re the changes to the front page, I'm a Mac user and never used to see the log in icon at the top of the page. I can now see it but whenever I click on it to log in, I'm returned
to the the old front page (the one where I can't see the log in icon). In order to log in, I have to go through the people icon. Is this meant to happen?

[stephen]

Wombat, that's a bug, I fixed it. Thanks for letting me know about it.

Lobster-girl, that's a good idea, I'll keep it in mind for when I revamp the exchange pages.

Pixelady, that's another good idea, you should be able to search by what they're offering and what they want.

Cieart, slots for messages, as well as AIM, ICQ, etc, is on my list for general improvements to profiles.

[Wombat]

Thanks Stephen, it works! Those little gremlins get into everything... http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Mermaid]

Stephen
Have you a way of doing a mass email to confirm valid email addresses for everyone signed up on nervousness?

Is there any way of telling how long ago the 4000+ people with no feedback signed up to the site?

[gryhare]

Here's another suggestion for the things that need to be fixed cause they just aren't quite right...

When an exchange is declined by either party, nothing ever tells anyone that this has happened -- the exchange just sits there for weeks and weeks with the status saying that it's waiting for approval from whoever.

Can this be changed? Just to say declined? Maybe to send an email (like the system does when an exchange is approved or when a counter-offer is made) letting both parties know?

This is one of the really frustrating things to me....

Kim

[GuineaBaby]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (gryhare @ Nov. 02 2002,4:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Here's another suggestion for the things that need to be fixed cause they just aren't quite right...

When an exchange is declined by either party, nothing ever tells anyone that this has happened -- the exchange just sits there for weeks and weeks with the status saying that it's waiting for approval from whoever.

Can this be changed? Just to say declined? Maybe to send an email (like the system does when an exchange is approved or when a  counter-offer is made) letting both parties know?

This is one of the really frustrating things to me....

Kim[/b][/quote]
there are counter-offer emails. I've gotten some that say "so and so is bartering with you".

[Willow_starr]

The new feedback page looks great! I'm so excited about all the changes that are happening. Thanks for all your hard work.

[lobster-girl]

unrelated to the feedback....um...i haven't received any nervous emails in a while and there were objects and exchanges i signed up for but have not received any notice. did i do something to my profile or is this a glitch?

[guineababy]

I don't know if anyone else noticed this or not, but after I log in, I automatically go for the tab that is supposed to say "your page" on it and it says "log in" even though I am logged in. Most of the time I catch myself and click on the link under the button, but sometimes I don't.

[GuineaBaby]

I was also curious if it was possible to make two different views...one of what people have up for trade and one for what people want?

[SilverFlame]

Stephen, baby!! Nice to meet ya. http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif I emailed almost a month ago with some suggestions to help with the bandwidth of the site (deleting inactive users) and to help us users categorize our LMAO's (by allowing us to click a "finished?" button on a LMAO and having that LMAO be transferred to a second page, where all our finished objects are)... It would help keep people up-to-date and it would help things get done a helluva lot faster and make people a lot happier... Anywho. Just wondering if you received the email, as I never got a response!! Oh yeah, it also mentioned using the "edit my details" spot for a personal blurb (so we don't have to use our addy spot) and moving the "edit my details" button to above the line it sits under... Anywho. Suggestions, suggestions. Anything to make life easier!! (Although maybe not necessarily for the person who has to program the pages?)

Comments & thoughts are appreciated. http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Angela

[SilverFlame]

Is there any way to set up a system to show how many positive and negative fb points we have?? Something like a (X +, X -) at the top of our fb pages with a little thumbs up or thumbs down right next to the comments people post to say if their feedback is positive or negative?? This would be Sooooooo helpful. (Yeah, I know I'm neeeeedy and keep asking you for different things... But I swear they're all good suggestions!! http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif)...

[eeyoreva]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SilverFlame @ Dec. 15 2002,6:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Is there any way to set up a system to show how many positive and negative fb points we have??[/b][/quote]
I think I saw some feedback-page-in-the-works which showed negative feedback in red and positive in green.
So this will happen one day.

[suburbangoth]

i've been thinking......i remember reading posts a while back that said leaving negative feedback didn't really always help warn people of potential bad eggs &i was thinking.......maybe a sort of warning level could be introduced? you know, like how on aim you can warn people? just a thought.......i know absolutely nothing about coding but i'm sure it'd be a nightmare. anyhow....i should really be working on a research paper rightnow anyway.

*shuffles off* http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[SilverFlame]

I think the feedback system would be doing its job if people ever used it! I know I am guilty of this as well... I leave fb for certain things and just assume that since I was happy with my part of an exchange, the other people were too or whatever... But I think if you have a good experience with a person, no matter what it is, you should leave them a good point. If you have a bad experience, no matter what it is, you should leave them a bad point. Then we will know who is truly awesome and who truly sucks di... oh, I don't think I can say that here. Anyway.

About the feedback points next to our names? I think it would be helpful for those of us who are passing lmao's to see how many the people after us have so we can choose to send it to them or not (like be able to see it on the lmao page instead of having to go to their page -- I know, I'm lazy!!)... Maybe there would be a way to reject people from lmao's that have so many NEGATIVE points... (not just saying, "I want people above 10 points" but saying "I will not allow anyone with over 10 negative points")... I know, that's complicated and not a very good suggestion, but it's a thought...

I personally LOVED my idea about giving each user another page for finished lmao's though (why not?? we've got an extra page for exchanges in progress?!)...

"Finished?" Yep, my part with this lmao is done... Click! Removed to Finished LMAO page... Oh, that's what I want for Xmas from the Nervousness peeps... I mean... poor little ole Stephen. http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif I'm sure he hates me by now. If not, it's coming soon... http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[stephen]

I think the new feedback page is almost ready to roll. When viewing someone's feedback, go to feedback-new.cgi instead of feedback.cgi. For instance, my feedback page is here:

http://www.nervousness.org/people/feedback-new.cgi?id=stephen

It color-codes the feedback and properly puts the positive / negative dropdown on the right choice. It seems like a lot of people gave 'negative' feedback that was later changed to positive when they corrected spelling mistakes or what-have-you. It's kind of funny to see feedback written in red with a little green square next to it.

xander1108 is a good person to look at for examples of that.

http://www.nervousness.org/people/feedback-new.cgi?id=xander1108

[stephen]

Please ignore the checkboxes next to your subscriptions, as they are currently wonderfully useless.

[mejaka]

They're not totally useless. First, you can make little green checks appear and disappear in them. But more importantly, they mark very clearly where one LMAO leaves off and another begins, even if the first LMAO has a bunch of colorful, distracting, longwinded chattery updates trailing down below it. :^ )

[Shekinah]

oooh - the new color coding on the feedback is cool! So is the feedback header that separates the number of positive/negative/neutral up front - saves a lot of time in poking around on some folks if I see 8 positive and 40 negatives before I even bother reading the content of the feedback!

[eeyoreva]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (stephen @ Dec. 18 2002,11:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Please ignore the checkboxes next to your subscriptions, as they are currently wonderfully useless.[/b][/quote]
Now I'm going to check the boxes, just cause you said I couldn't http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[kittie_naughty]

wow, I think the new colour coded fb is great!

[Penster]

The improvements that have been made to the feedback feature look great, Stephen.

[fawne]

stephen, is there some sort of html problem on the bossy person's lmao? it seems to mess up my lmao list on my profile page.
lmao here. (http://www.nervousness.org/lmao/index.cgi?id=8264)
thanks, fawne

[stephen]

The bossy person LMAO has been fixed. Watch those HTML tags. I've also deployed the new feedback page, let's hope I didn't mess anything up this time. http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Katiekat]

Hey Stephen ~

We haven't heard any updates from you for awhile. Anything new you could share?

Hope all is well.

[stephen]

I've really enjoyed my time away, does that count? I'm feeling quite refreshed now. Amazing what two weeks of remodeling and interior decorating followed by almost quitting your job and being deathly ill for a few days will do for morale. http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Anyway, I just recently made some changes to the questions page, which is why it now actually loads in something resembling internet time. It's still a bit slow by my standards, but it's good enough for now.

Tonight I may alter the signup process so that you can sign up if you have a signup key, so we can start selectively letting people in to play.

[Katiekat]

Yay, I'm glad you had a nice break. Sorry to hear about the deathy ill part, cuz that's not so nice.

Did you ever figure out the Erik-loading-pictures-from-wherever-he-was-and-using-up-your-space problem?

Hope things go smoothly from here, and thanks for the update!

http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Lyrica]

stephen, something screwy is going on with my questions...when i click answer questions, it goes to a really really old q&a page. so i can't answer any current questions.
any ideas?
is this because you were working on this today? because it worked fine this morning http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[stephen]

I fixed that bug just a minute ago, it was ordering the questions wrong. The MP3 downloads appear to have subsided, as MP3 downloads are wont to do.

[Lyrica]

thanks stephen, you rock!

[hopeevey]

So, Stephen, what would you like me to make for you as a thank you gift when I'm able to join Nervousness? (hey, I'm not above a little bribery:))

[kastel47]

ahahahahaha http://nervousness.org/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif